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Author: LastChance

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Date added: 2015-08-17

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Made with: Algodoo v2.1.0

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That suggestion is very obvious to all of us, the problem is that quality scenes get drowned in low-quality scenes so people can't find the good content.
I'm not sure it's obvious to ALL of us...
In my opinion, the problem with Algobox is not "high quality" scenes vs "low quality" scenes, but rather it is HOW Algobox is being used. The very young users (mostly children between the approximate ages of 7 and 12) do not care about learning new things. In their eyes they get more than enough education in school and also with occasional homework. To them, Algobox is a place where they can play with other kids and make fun marble race scenes and algocathlon scenes. Emanuel (Algoryx employee) claims that the young kids will not get "inspired" if Algobox were split into two groups (new users and advanced users), but I disagree with that concept, and here's why: Kids do not want to be inspired to create technically advanced scenes. All they care about is playing games with colored marbles and stick men. To them, there are no "good quality" or "poor quality" scenes. There are just marble race scenes and algocathlon scenes. The scenes are either fun to play with or they are not fun to play with. It's as simple as that! By separating Algobox, it gives the advanced users a place where they can do their own technical scenes without being overloaded by simple children's scenes, and the children and other junior members will have a place where they can play with colored marbles without being maligned by us advanced users. It's the only way that Algobox can work. But, unfortunately, a major change like that will not happen because of the high cost in money, time, and resources that it would require. :(
Last edited at 2015/08/17 17:11:13 by Xray
I don't think that we can ignore the Huang brothers' popularity. If you don't know them, they are incredibly famous for making marble races and algicosthlons. Other projects include the scale of the universe and evolution simulator (highly reccomended by me!) and BFDI(A)
What page
?
htwins.net
if you want to do the evolution simulator there is a link in carykh's evolution simulator on youtube
Xray, I would have to disagree with you about younger users not wanting to learn new things. I joined algobox when I was 13 and all I did was pick apart others scenes and learned how they work. I'm still in school, but I try to still learn things from others scenes. When I started I had no idea what the script menu even did, but now I'm using _variables in my scenes. I don't think age is a relevant issue.
TheClankinator - You are an exception! I was like you too. The more technical the scenes, the more I liked them and the more I wanted to learn more about them. But the majority of young kids, from what I've seen, are not like us. All they want to do is PLAY PLAY PLAY!
Xray - Exactly! We need to inspire the kids! But how? That's even harder than taking care of 100,000 sheeps in a huge field!:(
Well, look at Calebthecool. He does amazing things!
faytree - You asked the right question: "How to inspire the kids?". The problem is, few if any of us adult users here on Algobox are professional teachers. We do not have the knowledge or experience working with kids as educators. And besides that, it's not our job to educate these kids! I wouldn't mind lending a hand to help to inspire the kids, but I don't know how to do it. I can make scenes, and I can answer questions, but that's about the extent of my knowledge with teaching kids. Technically, if Algoryx wants the kids to be inspired, then THEY should figure out what it takes, and then THEY should provide the resources to make it happen. If/when Algodoo and Algobox start to make money on those products again, then Algoryx is the company that will profit from it, not us users! Am I wrong about that?
Well, I have teaching experience even though I'm 12...
LastChance - Teaching someone in person is a lot different from teaching someone through text over the Internet. And a good teacher would have plenty of training in the subject that they want to teach. Have you had sufficient training and experience that would qualify you to teach about Algodoo? Do you have a good understanding of math and physics? That is what you would need in order to be qualified to teach Algodoo (which, ideally, would include teaching Thyme scripting language).
Thats why some public places own a kiddie area(except swimming halls). So the kids do their kiddie stuff while the adults do the serious business. Question is, why wont anyone realize that we need this here too.

Also, huge error in thinking: If we would only look on the popular page, then it would die out because:

To get "popular", you need downloads, and downloads are made by people of your kind, who look on the popular, which has no scenes, because noone gives downloads, since downloads are made by people by your kind etc...

If we only lok there, it will die out and finally turn into an alternative news page. To get popular you need to lift off the majority, and this only works if you join the majority first...